Tinder automation for OnlyFans: 50 accounts, no Gold

Hey guys hope you're well i wanted to talk about like the current state of Tinder marketing for OnlyFans it's been a little while since i since i put out my last video on like Tinder marketing which has picked up like quite a few views by now and as with most like marketing and acquisition channels within the OnlyFans space they're quite like fast-paced and like constantly evolving and i get quite a lot of questions about perhaps things that i've said before that are no longer relevant that have changed as like the marketing channel evolves see i just thought i would cover some of the just frequently asked questions that i get on like a daily basis.

The first one that i actually get is are we able to verify Tinder models if we have someone who a model who applies with us and they're based in Canada or in the us are we able to verify their profiles. Because previously we were having some issues with that and the answer to that is yes and the bypass that we currently use to that is not a particularly it's not some hidden hack or something we literally just bring in like a similar looking model who is based out here what we're based in Eastern Europe we'll get a physical person to come in and to actually take pictures and that is how we will get a blue check mark on the account there are a couple of other ways that you can do it as well such as like remote logins.

But getting a girl to play around with downloading all this software and stuff we actually just found it much more streamlined to pay to bring in like a look-alike model essentially the benefits of getting a blue check mark are you will see like increased activity the accounts become like very active and you also see a reduction in bans. But that doesn't mean to say this stops bans altogether it definitely doesn't we will still have accounts getting restricted even when they've been verified with the um with blue check mark.

Point number two and this is quite a funny one i was being sent a video like two or three times recently of this guy who built Tinderbot and automation software and they were selling it for like for two two hundred dollars which i i thought was quite interesting. So number one like i don't suggest you to use like Tinder swipers. And so on like the issue on Tinder isn't being able to swipe it's in getting accounts to become active and getting multiple different accounts to become active.

So Tinder has really invested quite a lot of time and money into detecting fake accounts. So that is like the main kind of work around the like the swiping itself is really very easy and there's also no need to pay like 200 for any software like i'll put a link to like auto-swiper.ch which we actually use on Bumble we don't use it on Tinder. But it supports both platforms and you can like. Personally i don't suggest to use it. But if you are going to go down that route there's no need to pay at like 200 for it it's literally two dollars per month and it has like pretty good filtering options as well.

But again like the issue really isn't on like the swiping side of things that is like the easiest part to fulfill if anything you also don't want to do like an auto swiper. Because you want the human filtering of checking does this guy look like look like an OnlyFans subscriber. So we actually prefer to do that process like manually as well. But not only that like you will also just find you have this significantly we you get us you get significantly more accounts active we're talking about doing this at scale right we're not talking about just running like one account you want anywhere from like.

Personally we tried to get about 50 accounts 50 Tinder accounts active for each of our models. So we're talking about operating this like scale the difficulty isn't in swiping it's in creating accounts that look. So real that they actually become active and you have to do like a number of different things such as modifying the pictures and i don't mean just in terms of changing the saturation in the pictures like you we have actually built like a face editing system to make each face like completely unique.

So we can use the same photos of a model. But we have to actually edit the pictures. So it's not detectable the same girl is creating like multiple different accounts on top of that as well we have to do like a ton of stuff with like gps modifications and various different things and we literally do this through like physical mobile devices. So i've shown this before i'll put another video up as well. But we are literally registering accounts using real mobile devices. Because browsers simply aren't able to compete with a mobile device.

So in my opinion i don't suggest to use like Tinder swipers i think you're just asking for trouble basically. But again it's really like very cheap to to do swiping it's like a very low value task that can just be outsourced. So easily. But that's not what the difficulty is in running Instagram it's really in getting the accounts to come active and. Regarding like why do we do. So many accounts per model there's another question that i get asked quite frequently we do them to position them throughout the us.

So we will try to cover like all of the major states within the us and even sometimes we'll go as far as not covering states we will actually sort by city by the population size of the city you're going to see much much better results if you are targeting larger cities we see like a much higher much higher like match rate. So that will be like we will basically work down cities by population starting off in the us we will also cover some of europe like for example we would cover London Liverpool Manchester as well maybe Brighton and Essex as well.

Which is some like sort of major locations within the uk as well as some like major cities throughout europe Paris Berlin are pretty good ones and then we'll set up a couple of accounts across Canada and you across Australia as well. So covering i'm not sure what you want to call them like tier one countries and. The reason for that is generally you have a higher chance that these guys have spare money to be able to spend on OnlyFans girls. Regarding and then. The other like most common question i get is what is the return on investment from Tinder and this is it's just it's a funny question to ask it it's uh the return on investment is going to vary massively depending on a number of different factors and a few just to list off a few of them is going to be how does your model look how many how big is her Instagram account like how much social proof is on that Instagram account how much social proof is on the OnlyFans account how many likes does she have how many posts does she have how many videos does she have.

Because those metrics are all publicly available. So before someone is choosing to make a subscription to an OnlyFans account they want to know how much content am i going to get access to and then. The biggest determining factor of what type of return on investment you're going to see is based off of your upsell strategies. So in our like Telegram group today as well i gave away like our like top performing template i made some slight adjustments to it. Because i didn't want hundreds of agencies to be using like the exact same template.

Because we would get caught out for using the same exactly the same upsell strategy. But this template has been used to sell like well over a million dollars on OnlyFans. And so we put that on there and if someone is using a good upsell strategy like that has been like thoroughly tested they're going to see a much higher return on investment for example that sexting script would extract about 320 i believe it is out or out of a subscriber. So if you have a high converting upsell script can and we just push like a couple of subscribers there that go through that upsell sequence you're seeing like a 10x return on investment whereas if you're pushing to like another OnlyFans profile that hasn't got the a good like upsell strategy in place of course it's just not even gonna come close you're like you're perhaps double your money off of like subscriptions or something.

But that's not where like the real money is made on OnlyFans all of the money is made within the inbox in the upsell strategy yeah and of course like it's like comparing one ecommerce store to another. As much as people often think like one OnlyFans account is the same as. The other conversion rates vary drastically between one OnlyFans account and another it's like you asking if we push like 1 000 visitors to one ecommerce store and then a thousand visitors to another ecommerce store there are.

So many different variables in play what are they actually selling and they're both selling different products what is the girl actually open to doing how much customer requests is she willing to fulfill what is the pricing structure how many how many posters you actually have is going to have a massive impact on the conversion rate. So i think people often like i don't know just look over these quite important factors within yeah just asking for like an exact number and it's really quite hard to get.

Because there's going to be like. So many different balls in play the only that kind of thing to say is that Tinder is going to drive much lower volumes of traffic compared to like some of. The other like marketing channels such as like Instagram TikTok and Reddit and like definitely much lower volumes than Twitter however the quality is much much higher. Which is what i really love about Tinder traffic. Because on all of. The other platforms it's a bit harder to do like location targeting. But in Tinder we can literally just modify the gps location on the mobile device and we can position ourselves to be in New York to be in San Francisco to be in in LA or like wherever we want and we're surround we're instantly putting ourselves in front of an audience of people that have money.

So that makes for a much higher quality audience. But just in general as well i do think that the traffic that comes from Tinder is just it's much lower volume compared to these other platforms. But the conversion rate is. So much higher and the average order value that we're able to extract out of a out of a Tinder customer compared to compared to like pretty much any other platform even compared to other dating sites as well for example we do like a ton of marketing on Bumble the conversion rate and as well as the average order value from a Bumble subscriber does not even come close to that of Tinder.

Which is why i do love Tinder as as an acquisition channel for OnlyFans. But it does come with its own set of negatives being that it is a pain in the ass to get to get accounts active. So we will all of our accounts by the way we're like expecting them to get restricted at some point or another like we do our best to keep them to make sure that they don't get restricted. But they're quite easy and cheap for us to re to set up again.

So we will do 100 swipes per day. Which is like the limit on a free Tinder account and it will get banned in between seven days to two weeks. But we're working completely fine with that and we just accept that it's part of the process and. The other benefit as well is when you create a new account on Tinder they actually get like an initial boost where they'll get like a ton of matches. So it does actually make quite good sense to to refresh your Tinder accounts every now and then perhaps some of you have seen it as well in on like your personal Tinder profiles where after you've had an account for a certain amount of time it starts to stagnate a little bit and you don't get the type of initial matches that you were when you first signed up for Tinder.

But yeah the negative of Tinder is it just takes a long time to to figure out there's a lot of traps we can say put in by Tinder specifically to check people to try to make sure that people aren't promoting OnlyFans or aren't trying to promote a cam website or. So on. So you have to be quite careful when navigating Tinder as a platform and you need to understand where the where the like detection systems are and it's taken a lot of testing. But we've got pretty good it like i said we still have accounts banned all the time we still have accounts as well that don't come active we have created thousands of Tinder accounts now we have a pretty pretty solid understanding of how to navigate the platform.

But the length of the effort that you need to go through into order to actually get it to work is probably like. The biggest negative of Tinder as a platform. But the quality of the traffic makes it worthwhile at the end of the day and. The other question that we get is do we use Tinder Gold and. Personally i don't the benefit of using Tinder Gold is number one that you can change the location of the account. But we actually modify it through gps coordinates. So that's not an additional benefit for us.

So the main benefit would be like you get the the boost to appear in front of to boost your profile to appear in like front of everyone at the very start of at the very start of the Tinder matches queue essentially. But it's it has like varied results like we have actually had free accounts get 10 000 likes within 48 hours without doing any like Tinder boosts. And so on and we've had accounts on gold that have only got like 1 000 matches. So i'm not sure that it's actually the best tool.

The biggest benefit of Tinder Gold is going to be that you're able to double the amount of likes that you do even more than double. But to play it safe you can still only do about 200 swipes per day on a Tinder account and even then it would be considered like extremely active. So you're putting the account at risk. So personally i don't like to opt in opt down that route. The other thing that you need to handle is like upgrading the accounts Tinder has like detection systems for like the billing details and we can work around that like we do it for clients.

But personally i prefer to do to set up suicide accounts they're cheap they're set up very quickly we do 100 swipes per day and as soon as they get banned we'll just go ahead and set up a new one and basically replace it and i find that to be like the most the most efficient way of running Tinder profiles. Because also if you pay for Tinder Gold and the account gets banned after 24 hours or after a couple of days most likely you could have seen like a return on investment.

But it's going to be quite tight you can ask them for a refund. But it's just like another whole process to go through and instead for me it makes much more sense to do to do free accounts and just literally keep remaking them. So personally i don't use Tinder Gold. But we have got about six or seven different clients at the moment who specifically request Tinder Gold and we set that up for them. But you have to use like unique credit cards every single time every time you purchase gold.

Because Tinder actually tries to detect are you using the same billing details on multiple accounts and if you're caught doing. So they will literally ban all of the accounts and i have had that happen before like i said all of this information and figuring out the platform a lot of it was learnt the hard way we can say. Other than that like i also get asked a lot like why i've covered this already. But i'll just go into it in a little bit more detail people are often asking why do we use mobile devices instead of using MultiLogin GoLogin device emulation software and all these different routes and.

The reason is. Because i've tested it like i've literally tested i've been doing this for over a year now like i've been playing around with with Tinder like quite in detail for OnlyFans the first thing i ever tested was MultiLogin and GoLogin. Because they were like the most obvious ways to go through and you can even be quite what i thought was quite clever. But it turned out it didn't work you can you can manipulate like your webcam to make it appear like you're taking the pictures in real time.

But that's it just it just does not work as efficiently as as mobile devices like you cannot get more realistic than the system that we have in place for creating Tinder accounts we're using genuine mobile phones iPhones we're using like 4g internet we're using unique locations with like unique iClouds and Gmails and phone numbers every single time they're completely isolated from each other and you cannot get a more realistic scenario of this looking like a real person. Which is again just leads back on to the point of why i don't really suggest Tinder automation is.

Because if it's hard enough to set this up as a with a real human doing it like we literally have a team of people who are based here in Eastern Europe with me setting up the these accounts you cannot no matter what like software is saying you cannot emulate a more realistic environment than actually operating like a real phone with a real sim card and and all of these like real factors um. So as much as you hear like these software saying that they like emulate human behavior like again i come from a very extensive like marketing automation background like particularly on like Instagram and social media platforms trying to mimic human behavior on all of these platforms.

But it always leads back to the same answer. Which is running real devices. As much as it's more expensive like the return on investment is really there like we do the same on Instagram as well it's the route that we went down in like my old agency and at first i thought i was crazy when i thought to buy thousands of iPhones and set set them all up and have real people managing and clicking them. Because before that i was running everything through software. But quite simply it's very easy to detect software and automation and.

As much as on real phones we still have devices that get banned the ban rate is a hell of a lot lower and we're able to do a hell of a lot more activity compared to using any like sort of marketing or automation software. So my personal advice is like not to use it. But if you were going to use it like you can find you can even find like free plugins on like the Chrome Web Store. So there's no need to pay for like premium not even premium overpriced solutions basically.

But as i mentioned before as well. The other thing that you're going to lose out on is like the targeting system. Which is what i also love about my like on the Instagram growth side of things you can have a human eye like i absolutely love software and technology and software and technology is great for automating repetitive tasks. But the issues that all of these platforms actually spend huge amounts of money and resources developing very complex algorithms for detecting are you a robot is this a real person performing this activity Tinder more than anyone is um is very focused on this like it used to be very easy to get away with creating accounts and now the amount of updates and changes that we've seen ourselves in the past eight months to one year it has become a lot harder to create Tinder accounts and.

The reason that has happened as well is. Because Tinder was becoming oversaturated with OnlyFans content creators and there was a point about four or four months ago where we would be getting direct messages from guys just saying are you only here to promote your OnlyFans and that is always a sign that a marketing channel is oversaturated fortunately that has actually died down now which i think is actually a sign that Tinder's detection systems are working pretty well. So as much as it makes the job much harder to create Tinder accounts it also kills off the competition.

Because it has become. So much harder to get active account. But anyway yeah that is like the current state of Instagram marketing do i still recommend it as an acquisition channel 100 like we we actively use across all of our models and like i said. As much as it's not high traffic the quality of the traffic is just in my opinion is the best quality traffic that you can get compared to any other like social media definitely compared to paid promotion. And so on yeah conversion rate is great and generally the guys are quite happy to spend money yeah i still love it as an acquisition channel despite the.

So the difficulties it's still well worth it. Other than that if yeah if there's any other these are like the main questions i get at least like a couple of times per week. But yeah if there's any other questions about Tinder and anything else yeah feel free to leave a comment.